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[3DF] COMPUTER MUSICIAN COALITION [CMC] New Price In Effect For Independent Musicians ATARI ROUNDTABLE NEWS ... [ATN] FOR SALE ................ [SLE] What's Happening Used Items WANTED .................. [WTD] LOG OFF ................. [LOG] Want to Purchase GEnie Lamp PR. [IDX] """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" READING GEnie Lamp [PR] GEnie Lamp [PR] has incorporated a unique """"""""""""""""""""""" indexing system to help make reading the magazine easier. To utilize this system, load GEnie Lamp [PR] into any ASCII word processor or text editor. In the index you will find the following example: FOR SALE ................ [SLE] Used Items To read the article on Used Items For Sale, set your find or search command to [SLE]. If you want to scan the articles, search for [EOA]. [EOF] will take you to the last page, whereas [IDX] will bring you back to the index. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" [EOA] [3DF]////////////////////////////// 3-D FLOPTICAL / ///////////////////////////////// New Price In Effect ========================================================================== | | | Last Chance for the '3-D Floptical' | | Introductory Offer | | from New Dimensions Computer Center | | 9026 W. National Ave., West Allis, WI 53227 | | Phone or FAX (414)327-3311 | | | ========================================================================== The last few days are here for the New Dimensions Computer Center introductory pricing on the 3-D Floptical Disk Drive (thru December 31, 1992). New low prices have also been set for after the introductory offer. Despite claims made by other companies, New Dimensions Computer Center was the first to offer Floptical drives for Atari computers. Like all new electronic and computer products, these drives were expensive at first. They are now more readily available and prices have come down drastically. Floptical drives will read, write and format 720K, 1.44M and 21M disks. 720K and 1.44M are twice as fast in a Floptical drive as compared to a floppy disk drive, and 21M Floptical disks are four times faster. The 3-D Floptical custom case measures 4" x 1 1/8" x 8 1/8" (WxHxD). Three models are available: ============================================================ | 3-D Floptical ACSI | | ------------------ | | Thru Dec. 31, 1992 - $389 | | After Dec. 31, 1992 - $419 (New LOW Price!!!) | | | | Includes: Floptical Drive, Custom Case, Power Supply, | | ICD LINK, DMA Cable, ICD Software and | | One 21M Disk | ============================================================ | 3-D Floptical SCSI | | ------------------ | | Thru Dec. 31, 1992 - $289 | | After Dec. 31, 1992 - $339 (New LOW Price!!!) | | | | Includes: Floptical Drive, Custom Case, Power Supply | | SCSI Cable and One 21M Disk | ============================================================ | 3-D Floptical BARE | | ------------------ | | Thru Dec. 31, 1992 - $269 | | After Dec. 31, 1992 - $299 (New LOW Price!!!) | | | | Includes: Floptical Drive and One 21M Disk | ============================================================ | 21M Floptical Disk | | ------------------ | | Quantity One thru Dec. 31, 1992 - $19.95 each | | After Dec. 31, 1992 - $22.95 each | | | | Five Pack thru Dec. 31, 1992 - $18.95 each | | After Dec. 31, 1992 - $19.95 each | | | | Five Pack Includes FREE Floptical Disk Carry Case/Holder | ============================================================ Call or write for a free brochure: New Dimensions Computer Center 9026 W. National Ave. West Allis, WI 53227 Phone or FAX (414)327-3311 [EOA] [CMC]////////////////////////////// COMPUTER MUSICIAN COALITION / ///////////////////////////////// For Independent Musicians ** NEWS FLASH - A GEnie EXCLUSIVE ** Immediate Release to All GEnie Music Enthusiasts January 1, 1993 CMC EXPANDS - OPENING ITS DOORS TO ALL INDEPENDENT MUSICIANS WORLD-WIDE The Computer Musician Coalition (CMC), an international, artist-driven collaboration, dedicated to the success of electronic musicians world-wide, announces the formation of a new division, the Creative Musicians Coalition (CMC), dedicated to the success of all independent musicians including the non-electronic bread. CMC's success in the electronic arena has proved that there is a waiting, desiring, and enthusiastic audience for new music world-wide. CMC, because of its successes, is now able and capable to expand its offerings to include both electronic and non-electronic music. Therefore, effective immediately, CMC will accept original music submissions from all independent musicians including music solely acoustic, solely electronic, electronic/acoustic mixes, vocals, meditation, and the spoken word. CMC's magazine AFTERTOUCH - New Music Discoveries, also originally electronic music based, will broaden to include new music from independent artists in both arenas. Additionally, all CMC memberships including: Connoisseur, Artist, Dealer, Radio Station, and Vendor will expand to accommodate both categories. Ron Wallace, president of CMC, states, "I am amazed at the enormous acceptance by the general public for new music. It has always been my dream for the success of the independent musician, and I feel now the window of opportunity is wide open. It's time for all independent musicians to unite and get out of their basements for the world to enjoy. I offer each of them a dream-come-true and encourage their support in all CMC endeavors." For more information about CMC memberships, music submission procedures, and a free copy of AFTERTOUCH - New Music Discoveries write or call: Ron Wallace Creative Musicians Coalition Computer Musician Coalition 1024 W. Willcox Ave. Peoria, IL 61604 Phone: (309) 685-4843 FAX: (309) 685-4878 Or Email: S.GARRIGUS (On GEnie) [EOA] [ATN]////////////////////////////// ATARI ROUNDTABLE NEWS / ///////////////////////////////// What's Happening Atari Roundtable Weekly News 12.3 = DARLAH'S TREAT = *************************************************************** Happy Holidays from the Atari Roundtable and GEnie! Darlah's Holiday Treat of the Month [page 475;9] is PHNXDEMO.LZH from LEXICOR2. This the DEMO version of Phoenix object render from Lexicor Software. The LZH file also includes SPC & GIF sample files. This is a must have program for all ATARI computers. Phoenix support different light sources, 3 different cameras, texture and image mapping: SPC, GIF & TGA are support. This is a very fast render. *************************************************************** = REALTIME CONFERENCE = = Scheduled Wednesday RTC Guests = Have an idea for an Realtime Conference? Wish to promote a product, show or service? Atari Roundtable Realtime Conference provides an excellent platform for announcements and discussions. Contact RTC$, for requirements and information on holding formal RTCs. We also capture and edit the formal conferences and uploads them into the Atari RT's Library for you. = Monday Realtime Conference = Stop in for Monday's Desktop Publishing Realtime Conferences. Hosted by Lou Rocha with regular guests dealing with all aspects of DTP and associated topics. = Atari ST Help Desk = Atari ST Roundtable holds a Sunday Help Desk to answer your questions on GEnie, Atari ST Roundtable and the line of Atari computers. Stop in and ask questions or just visit the Atari RT staff and users. The Help Desk starts at 9:00 pm EST Sunday on page 475;2. = RTC Transcripts = -------------------------------------------------- 27028 GAMESRTC.ARC X BRIAN.H 921220 7808 27 13 Desc: Gaming RTC - Eric Bitton 26912 LEXICOR.ARC X BRIAN.H 921213 16384 74 13 Desc: LEXICOR RTC 9Dec92 26809 BRODIE3.ARC X ST.LOU 921205 12672 430 13 Desc: Lots of Christmas Specials from Bob -------------------------------------------------- For Realtime Conference inquires and comments contact: RTC$ = LIBRARY = Last Week's Top Downloaded Programs/Utilities: --------------------------------------------------- 26927 W9_375UP.LZH X CODEHEAD 921213 67072 273 2 Desc: Fixes 2 bugs in Warp 9 3.74 26980 PCSVIEW3.LZH X E.JOLLEY 921217 3200 270 28 Desc: PhotoChrome viewer-now from HD!!! 27013 MEGAPEDE.LZH X D.MUNSIE 921220 242816 159 8 Desc: Millipede for the 90's! 26949 CBDDEMO2.LZH X FAIR-DINKUM 921215 133632 134 10 Desc: NEW Demo version of CyberDrome!!! 27012 EVADER.LZH X D.MUNSIE 921220 81408 114 8 Desc: Fast action shoot-em-up. 27019 PRINTALL.LZH X OUTRIDER 921220 27648 109 2 Desc: Multi-Format HP DJ Print Utility! --------------------------------------------------- Last Week's New Demos: --------------------------------------------------- 27049 PIXEL_DM.LZH X REALM 921223 34432 28 10 Desc: Saving Screen Grabber Demo! 27008 CAMPAIGN.LZH X S.KIPKER 921219 70272 60 10 Desc: DEMO of New War Simulator for Atari. 26986 PAPIDEMO.LZH X GRMEYER 921217 232704 33 10 Desc: Papillon: German drawing prg demo 26973 ESCAPE_D.ARC X V.VALENTI 921216 144640 43 10 Desc: A graphic adventure playable demo. 26962 SOLUTION.LZH X P.DUBE 921215 288768 54 10 Desc: Mathematical software for the ST/TT 26949 CBDDEMO2.LZH X FAIR-DINKUM 921215 133632 134 10 Desc: NEW Demo version of CyberDrome!!! --------------------------------------------------- Last Week's Press Releases in the Library --------------------------------------------------- 26983 IAAD_CR4.DAT X D.A.BRUMLEVE 921217 14336 41 14 Desc: CardFile v4 IAAD Member Directory 26982 IAAD_CRD.DAT X D.A.BRUMLEVE 921217 10880 13 14 Desc: CardFile IAAD Member Directory 26979 STFAXANN.TXT X C.S.SMETON 921217 1920 150 14 Desc: STraight FAX! Annoucement 26964 IAAD_DIR.ASC X D.A.BRUMLEVE 921215 10496 54 14 Desc: Updated IAAD Member Directory --------------------------------------------------- Contact: LIBRARY$ = COMMENTS = You are free to use anything in this brief but files and Bulletin Board quotes must be made in accordance to Atari ST Roundtables, Atari Corporation and GEnie policies. Feel free to contact me on any questions, comments or suggestions. John G. Hartman [J.G.H.] Atari Roundtable, PR Sysop ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Atari Roundtable Weekly News 12.4 = REALTIME CONFERENCES = = Friday Bob Brodie RTC = Join Bob Brodie on Friday the 8th of January starting at 10:00 pm EST to talk about what is in store for Atari this coming year. Join in the question and answer session! = Scheduled Wednesday RTC Guests = Watch this spot for an important announcement concerning an upcoming RTC, featuring more Atari Programmers at one time, in one place, than you've ever seen before, as the IAAD are our special guests January 13, 1993, 10:00 pm EST. = RTC Transcripts = -------------------------------------------------- 27028 GAMESRTC.ARC X BRIAN.H 921220 7808 27 13 Desc: Gaming RTC - Eric Bitton 26912 LEXICOR.ARC X BRIAN.H 921213 16384 74 13 Desc: LEXICOR RTC 9Dec92 26809 BRODIE3.ARC X ST.LOU 921205 12672 430 13 Desc: Lots of Christmas Specials from Bob -------------------------------------------------- For Realtime Conference inquires and comments contact: RTC$ = LIBRARY = Last Week's Top Downloaded Programs/Utilities: --------------------------------------------------- 27013 MEGAPEDE.LZH X D.MUNSIE 921220 242816 219 8 Desc: Millipede for the 90's! 27074 ALADVU20.ARC X J.ALLEN37 921224 25728 185 7 Desc: Version 2.0 Aladdin File Viewer 27019 PRINTALL.LZH X OUTRIDER 921220 27648 155 28 Desc: Multi-Format HP DJ Print Utility! 27012 EVADER.LZH X D.MUNSIE 921220 81408 151 8 Desc: Fast action shoot-em-up. 26996 STKW1218.ARC X J.SELLERS2 921219 311424 138 8 Desc: Great Star Trek battle simulation! 27082 CYBERNTX.LZH X E.KRIMEN 921225 98560 113 8 Desc: Excellent Defender clone 27071 CFN_SHOW.LZH X GRMEYER 921224 14976 103 30 Desc: Display Calamus fonts on screen 27011 KID_GP.LZH X D.MUNSIE 921220 49152 103 8 Desc: Cute platform type game. --------------------------------------------------- Last Week's New Demos: --------------------------------------------------- 27049 PIXEL_DM.LZH X REALM 921223 34432 63 10 Desc: Saving Screen Grabber Demo! 27008 CAMPAIGN.LZH X S.KIPKER 921219 70272 80 10 Desc: DEMO of New War Simulator for Atari. --------------------------------------------------- Last Week's Press Releases in the Library --------------------------------------------------- 27113 3DFLPTCL.ASC X MAG.SOFTWARE 921228 4352 47 14 Desc: Last Chance For 3-D Floptical Sale!! 27103 WONDERLA.TXT X M.MIELKO1 921227 1536 21 14 Desc: A new BBS!! Michael's Wonderland.. 27078 CATALOG.ZIP X B.VARGO 921225 156288 85 14 Desc: D & P Computer Software Catalog --------------------------------------------------- Contact: LIBRARY$ = COMMENTS = You are free to use anything in this brief but files and Bulletin Board quotes must be made in accordance to Atari ST Roundtables, Atari Corporation and GEnie policies. Feel free to contact me on any questions, comments or suggestions. John G. Hartman [J.G.H.] Atari Roundtable, PR Sysop [EOA] [SLE]////////////////////////////// FOR SALE / ///////////////////////////////// Used Items If you want to sell something, a great place to get exposure is the RT message bases on GEnie. You can't beat the price and those most like- ly to purchase ST items are frequenting the bases. You can have your items listed here by posting a message in the ST RT message base, upload- ing a list to the ST RT library or sending E-mail to F.KOCH. HARDWARE, SOFTWARE and SYSTEMS ****************************** C O M P U T E R F O R S A L E G R E A T V A L U E !!! 1040ST Computer System, 1 MEG RAM EXCELLENT CONDITION - OFFICE CLOSURE HARDLY USED. Includes: colour monitor (640 x 400), 1 mouse, 1 internal DS/DD 3.5" micro floppy drive, new & used software, IBM emulator (allows DOS programs to run on the ST). $750.00 OR BEST OFFER For More Information Send E-Mail To: S.Wise ---------- B.HYUN2 [berto], CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:31/M475, Dec 25, 1992 I have the original OmniRes Multisynch box that will let you hook up multisynch monitors to your ST and get both MOno and Color displays. e-mail if interested. ---------- D.FORSYTH1, CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:32/M475, Dec 26, 1992 I have the following hardware items for sale. HARDWARE Atari 520 ST CPU with 1 Meg RAM with AT-Speed C16 (16 MHZ model) installed ------ $500 - 80286 processor, can display up to VGA with a monochrome monitor and CGA with a color monitor. 155 Meg hardrive (Conner drive in shoebox case) (with SCSI port on back) ---$400 Atari SF314 DS/DD DISK DRIVE (720K) -------- $100 Atari SF354 SS/SD Disk Drive (360K) -------- $50 1200 Baud Hayes compatable Modem ----------- $50 2 Kraft Joysticks -------------------------- $20 Also tons of PD software (all types) worth at least $100 of D/L time. Also the following disk magazine combos disk and magazine included for all. I will include 3 of these with each hardware item purchased on first come first serve basis. 15 - STart disk mags. 9 - Computes ST mags. 7 - ST/Amiga Format mags. (UK publication) All hardware is in excellent condition (I have never had any problems with any of it) and comes with all neccesary power supplies and cables. Please leave me E-Mail if you are interested in any of these items or wish to make a REASONABLE offer on anything as these prices are not written in stone. Doug Forsyth ---------- J.PIERCE5 [Rob], CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:33/M475, Dec 26, 1992 Two more items for sale: Golden Image external 3.5" disk drive. Has track indicator. Nice, small unit. Uses a Teac mechanism. In excellent condition... $65 Hard Drive Package ------------------ Seagate ST-277N 5.25" 65 meg drive Miniscribe 8524(?) 3.5" 20 meg drive Original ICD Host Shoebox Case and Power Supply NOTE: This is the package you've seen before. It's my friend's drive, and is about three years old. The Seagate occaisonally suffers from stiction -- it doesn't always come up on the first try. This would make an excellent BBS drive package, since leaving it on all the time is the best way to go. He WAS asking $225, but when he tells people about the stiction, they all back out. Now asking $185 or make an offer. Prices do not include shipping. If interested, please leave Email. Thanks! Rob ---------- G.HUFNAGEL, CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:34/M475, Dec 26, 1992 Atari Mega STE with 4 meg Ram and 50 meg HD Atari monitor SM 124 Canon BJ 10e printer Software: Calamus SL, Pagestream 2.2, Warp 9, Straight FAX, STalker 3 All these things together for $900.00 E*W EMail to GunterH ---------- R.COBBLE1 [ROD], CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:35/M475, Dec 26, 1992 BRAND NEW! STILL IN THE BOX **************************** ATARI SLM 804 LASER PRINTER **************************** Asking $450.00!!! o.b.o. Price does not include shipping. If interested leave GEnie E-Mail to R.COBBLE1 or call aft 4 p.m. EST @ 304-965-0374. ---------- GRMEYER [Gordon/Sysop], CAT 27, TOP 16, MSG:9/M475, Dec 27, 1992 Free Printer for school or charitable organization! I have a Telex TTX-1114 daisy wheel printer that I no longer use. Includes a tractor feed, two or three ribbons, and one print wheel. Has Centronics and Serial ports. Works fine, but could use a little cleaning up and maybe some oiling of the tractor feed. I used this to print many, many a paper in college, it has excellent output. Retail price, when new, was well over $700.00....but just try to find a daisy wheel today. ;) I'll ship this COD for cost of postage only to any school or authentic charitable organization that will use it. Drop me a note in email to discuss it.... Gordon ---------- O.STEELE, CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:36/M475, Dec 29, 1992 End of the Year Sale (or Trade) =============================== Atari ST Stuff -------------- Visioneering Mouse - $24 Haven't seen these for sale, but they are excellent! Way better than the Atari mouse and similar to the Best mouse. A great upgrade from the shlocky Atari critter. Atari ST Calamus Font Resource Guide - $5 It may be old, but they can still be useful to a lot of Calamus users. Ask Nathan @ ISD, he recommends it as a good source for 3rd party fonts. Atari ST Stealth PMC v. 1.3c - $5 Now a solid program, includes the older manual in print and the newer one on disk. A heck of a deal for a commercial program, and a great gift for an ST user. 520 ST - $make offer Doesn't include keyboard or TOS chips, does include power supply and 1 MB UPGRADE - parts alone worth $90 - make an offer. 520 ST Cover - $2 Nice genuine imitation leather cover at a low price, keep that dust off and prolong your computer's life. Atari ST to TV Hookup - $2 Includes adaptor to screw onto TV and cable from ST to adaptor so you can use your ST on your TV. 9 pin to 25 pin Cable - $4 Used to hookup a TT to an Image Systems monitor, you can re-cable it to whatever you need. Atari ST SF354 mechanism (Broken) - $5 Use for parts or whatever... Clock chip - $15 Plugs into Atari ST's video shifter chip uses 9 volt battery and keeps time all the time. Atari ST SF 354 Disk Drives (2 of them) - $15 Great to upgrade to double sided drives cheaply. No power supply included. Price is negotiable and they do work. Xformer II Cable - $17 Cable to hookup Atari 8-bit drives to the Atari ST. Also includes Xformer II software and utilities. Atari ST XTRA-RAM Deluxe Memory upgrade to 1 MB - $69 Easy to install memory upgrade, includes 1/2 MB of SIMM chip to upgrade to 1 MB (can switch w/ 2 MB SIMM chips for 2.5 MB upgrade or w/4 MB SIMM chips for 4 MB upgrade). Mac/Spectre ----------- May 1990 to March 1992 MacWorlds - $23 23 issues plus 2/90 MacUser and Summer '89 Macintosh Buyers Guide. Quick Link Disk - $7 Great Macintosh FAX software to send FAXes on Send-FAX modems (can be also used on the Atari ST thru Spectre GCR)! Generic ------- GEnie manual - $5 GEnie's commands at a glance, figure out what some of them really mean! Xon Jr/Printer Credit Card machine - $250 (or best offer) Starting up a business? Credit card machines are expensive, check this one out Pitney Bowes Postage Tape Sheets - $10 150 Double Sheets that can be stamped with Pitney Bowes machines. Half off their price. Power Cords - $3 each These are those universal cords that plug almost everything (monitors, computers, etc.) into the 3-prong electrical outlet. They're a pain in the butt to find if yours gets fried. We've got a bunch of surplus ones (we have 3 backups on hand). Real handy in emergency situations. Phone Headset - $9 Put 'em on your head and no need to hold a phone. Headphone goes over one ear and a belt clip with volume up/down dial and answer switch. Great for answering phone hands free, in new condition. Docubind - $59 Make manuals or anything else using the spiral comb binding and this machine, in mint condition; a great deal. Tower Case - $79 Four 5.25" bays and two 3.5" bays with power supply. In great condition, used for hard drive, additional drive, and holding modems, etc. while using with ST. Great price! Printer Q - $99 Printer buffer w/ 128K. Can be easily expanded to 1 MB w/ 128K DRAM chips. In metal case and brand new, speed up your printout! RS-232 Cable - $4 Generic RS-232 cable. 400 - 3.5" Disk Labels - $2 A great deal on a box of disk labels. AB Printer Switchbox - $12 Switch between two printers at the flip of a switch instead of plugging/unplugging them which damages connectors. VGA A/B Switchbox - $39 Switch between two VGA devices, handy for two monitors, saves stress on cable connections. Super VGA card w/ 1 MB - $69 For PC's this is a hi-quality card only a few months old and in new condition. Replaced with different card because of switch to a different computer system. 9 to 25 Pin RS-232 Adaptor - $4 Can be used for TT to adapt to 25 Pin modems/cables. Printer Cables - $4 2 DB-25 Centronics to DB-25 Centronics and 1 DB-25 Centronics to DB-25 computer plug cables, all 3 can be used with AB Printer Switchbox. BitStream ITC Bookman & Headlines 3 Font Disks - $25 each These originally cost $200 total! Hi Quality BitStream fonts, can also be upgraded to Type 1 fonts for $30 for one disk or $40 for both (have contact info for this). This is a really good deal (for those who haven't seen the outrageous prices of font disks). Contact: O.STEELE or call 206-399-8700 if interested in anything. WILL trade for anything, take Gift of Time, or negotiate prices. Prices do not include shipping, which depends on what you order. ---------- D.KUFNER [GALVATRON], CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:37/M475, Dec 29, 1992 1040stf 1mb + 20meg hd + Atari Slm 804 Laser Printer + Star nx1000 9pin printer + Zoom 2400 baud modem + Color monitor + all software I got. $1000.00. This is a complete set and cannot be broken up except for the printers. Send email offers. ---------- ROB-G [Rob], CAT 27, TOP 2, MSG:40/M475, Dec 31, 1992 Atari SM124 (two available, work great!)... Each 75 Golden Image external 3.5" disk drive w/track indicator... 60 Fortis DM1310 9-pin dot matrix printer. Has an excellent NLQ mode, 130 cps draft, push-feed tractor. Execellent condition, includes printer cable... 75 Comrex Daisy Wheel printer (made by Brother). Fairly quick for a daisy wheel, uses Brother typewriter printwheels, works great. Serial AND Parallel interfaces... 30 Prices do not include shipping. Well, I guess that about covers it. If you're interested in any of these items, please send GEmail to ROB-G. Thanks! Robert Glover ---------- T.EVANS21 [], CAT 27, TOP 4, MSG:18/M475, Dec 29, 1992 I have a 2 year old hardly used Panasonic KX-P1191 9 pin printer for sale.. This is a fine printer, and works real well with the Atari line up.. I have never had a moments trouble with it.. It looks, and runs brand new.. I have the manual and the orginal box and packing materials and the cable for hook up to an Atari.. It has not been used much at all, since I got my DeskJet 500 about a year and 1/2 ago.. I have just been using it to print mailing labels with LabelMaster.. If you buy this printer I will throw in LabelMaster Elite and PrintMaster Plus with orginal boxes, disks and manuals at no extra charge.. And I will include a 3 disk library of PM graphics.... All this for only $90 plus shipping.... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Some Specs: Epson compatible.. 240 CPS draft.. 160 CPS in letter quality mode.. Six built in fonts and the complete IBM and Epson character sets, as well as 13 international character sets.. Has quiet mode which drastically reduces printing noise... Front mounted mode select panel.. Easy to use... Tractor or friction feed. Bottom or back feed. Thank You, <-:}Ted{:-> Monday, December 28, 1992 - 3:28:26 pm ---------- R.COBBLE1 [ROD], CAT 27, TOP 7, MSG:6/M475, Dec 31, 1992 If you are into Midi, check out this Hardware!!!!! All items are brand NEW, still in the box.......... Device Description Retail Asking -------- ----------- ------ ------ ROLAND CF-10 Digital Fader $ 240.00 125.00 ROLAND CN-20 Music Entry Pad 240.00 125.00 ROLAND CM-32P PCM Sound Module 795.00 410.00 ROLAND CM-32L LA Sound Module 650.00 340.00 ROLAND CA-30 Intelligent Arranger 595.00 310.00 ROLAND MPU-103 Midi ch. Filter conv. 129.00 57.00 (rechannelizer) ROLAND MCB-1 IBM Midi connector box 150.00 70.00 If interested in above items, GEnie E-Mail to R.COBBLE1 or call aft. 4 P.M. EST @ 304-965-0374. Prices do not include shipping. ---------- S.JOHNSON10 [Steve], CAT 27, TOP 16, MSG:10/M475, Dec 29, 1992 Panasonic KX-P1091i II 9-pin dot matrix printer - original box and manuals and in very good condition. Best reasonable offer Leave GEmail to S.JOHNSON10, if interested. ---------- !!FOR SALE!! - Prices Negotiable Computer: 1040 ST FM } 4 megs ram } Tweety stero sound } All for $350.00 Monochrome Monitor } Mouse and Pad } Programs: Time Works Publisher ST } $25.00 This allows you to upgrade to newest version. Word Writer ST- Version 2 } $25.00 Word Processorr Easy Draw and Easy Tools } $25.00 Object Drawing Program Multi Gem Plus } $15.00 Simple Multi Tasking Utility Logistix } $20.00 Spreadsheet w/critical path functions Zaphodyne/Vtx-4014 } $5.00 Terminal Communications K-Resource } $5.00 Resource Construction Set Interlink ST } $10.00 Terminal Communications Time Link } $7.00 Time Management Macro Desk } $4.00 Desk Top All in 1 Accessory HyperFont } $4.00 Gem Font Editor VIP Professional } $15.00 Lodus 1,2,3 look alike spreadsheet Mishtron BBS 3.0 } $10.00 BBS Program Set Up Fontz } $10.00 GDOS Font Editor Seurat Version 2 } $10.00 Bit Map Graphics Program Hagterm Elite } $15.00 Teli Communication Program Gunship } $10.00 Helicopter Game Genie Address: M.FREED Fido Net: 1:110/500.0@Fidonet.org Signet: 26:1513/100.0@Signet.org KesherNet: 18:711/121.0@Kshrnet.org Teennet: 68:710/60.0@Teennet.org STarbase BBS (513)276-4158 Voice Number (513)276-3817 Contact Aaron or Marty Freed. ---------- SC1224 COLOR MONITOR: ORIGINAL JVC MONITOR SUPERIOR IMAGE/COLOR CONTROLS IN FRONT ACCESS TO INTERNAL CONTROLS FROM BACK EXCELLENT CONDITION-------------------------------------$175 SM124 MONO MONITOR: EXCELLENT CONDITION--------------------------------------$65 MONITOR MASTER: MONITOR SWITCHING STATION FROM PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS-------$15 MEGA 4: OVERSCAN ACCELERATOR BOARD READY - SOCKETED CPU JRI 4296 COLOR BOARD UPGRADE W/ IMPROVED DRIVER NEW POWER SUPPLY TWEETY BOARD KEYBOARD GOLDEN IMAGE HIGH-RESOLUTION MOUSE----------------------$355 SEAGATE ST-251N 43 MEG SCSI HARD DRIVE: ICD ADVANTAGE PLUS HOST ADAPTER W/ LATEST SOFTWARE UPDATES MOUNTED IN 5-BAY 601 MINI TOWER CASE W/ KEY LOCK 200 WATT POWER SUPPLY & FAN DOUBLE-SIDED DD FLOPPY DRIVE PAGESTREAM 2.2, NEODESK 3, MULTIGEM, CALAMUS SL, SILHOUETTE AND MORE REGISTERED SOFTWARE ON DRIVE-------------------$550 (PLEASE NOTE: SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE FOR SALE AS SEPARATE PACKAGES AND MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE HARD DISK WHEN AND IF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE SOLD AND THEIR REGISTRATIONS TRANSFERRED. INTERESTED CALLERS WILL BE ADVISED AS TO STATUS OF SOFTWARE.) ATARI SF314 EXTERNAL FLOPPY-----------------------------------$50 POWER SWITCHING THIGAMABOB: YOU KNOW---ONE OF THOSE GIZMOS WITH THE COOL LIGHTED ROCKER SWITCHES THAT LET YOU TURN YOUR COMPUTER, MONITORS, PRINTERS, HARD DRIVES, ETC. ON AND OFF WITHOUT HAVING TO FUMBLE AROUND BEHIND SAID ITEMS. WELL, ANYWAY--------------------------$15 APOLLO 17-INCH MONO MONITOR: RGB OUTPUT MONITOR ONLY--------------------------------------------$295 NEC POWERMATE/16 386SX COMPUTER: 2MEG 70ns RAM 1.2 MEG FLOPPY SVGA CARD IDE CONTROLLER 3BAY/ 5 SLOT DESKTOP CASE AND POWER SUPPLY MICROSOFT HIGH-RESOLUTION MOUSE-------------------------$495 MACKINTOSH 512K COMPUTER: EXCELLENT CONDITION (FOR A MAC)-------------------------$250 MACKINTOSH EXTERNAL FLOPPY DRIVE (400K)-----------------------$65 DIGITAL 'RAINBOW' CPM 8088 BASED COMPUTER: BAD POWER SUPPLY 10 MEG HARD DRIVE DESKTOP CASE DUAL 5 1/4" FLOPPIES KEYBOARD MONOCHROME MONITOR CABLES TOWER-CASE ENCLOSURE NO SOFTWARE----------------------------------------------$75 KAYPRO II CPM COMPUTER: VARIED SOFTWARE------------------------------------------$50 VARIOUS SOFTWARE PACKAGES AT LOW PRICES (SEE ABOVE). B.CLAYTON 919-362-7835 ---------- One (1) 520 ST upgraded to one meg.... old style, no internal drive... has RF modulator... and a single sided external drive. No mouse. $180.00 shipping paid by sender (COD by receiver) Brad Bradley Email: BBRADLEY Voice: 801-835-8441 SOFTWARE ******** D.FORSYTH1, CAT 27, TOP 3, MSG:109/M475, Dec 26, 1992 I have the following software for sale. Megamax Laser-C ---------------------------- $100 Personal Pascal ---------------------------- $50 Battle of Britian -------------------------- $25 Dungeon Master ----------------------------- $20 Chaos Strikes Back ------------------------- $20 EPYX Sub Battle Simulator ------------------ $15 Blockbuster -------------------------------- $10 DEGAS -------------------------------------- $20 ST-Talk ------------------------------------ $10 Leader Board ------------------------------- $15 All Atari software comes complete with all original documentation and neccesarry instruction manuals. Please leave E-Mail if you are interested in any of these items or wish to make a REASONABLE offer. Doug Forsyth ---------- E.STUCKEY, CAT 27, TOP 3, MSG:110/M475, Dec 26, 1992 NEW YEAR SPECIAL I'm selling DYNACADD for $250, I will also include free Migraph's hand scanner with Touch-Up (v.1.85) and Merge-It. All in excellent condition and with original Docs. E-Mail if interested. I have switched over to MAC, this is the reason for selling. ---------- G.HUFNAGEL, CAT 27, TOP 3, MSG:111/M475, Dec 26, 1992 I have the following original software for sale. All programs come with the manual. Calamus SL $ 250.00 Pagestream 2.2 $ 80.00 STalker $ 25.00 Ultrascript $ 30.00 Please call 402 551 0114 and ask for Gunter. ---------- J.LEMLEY [Jack], CAT 27, TOP 3, MSG:113/M475, Dec 27, 1992 This is an updated list with reduced prices. If you buy $40 worth of games I'll give you a $10 credit toward the purchase of other games or anything else I have for sale on Genie!!!! With a $40 purchase I will also pay for UPS ground shipping (buyer pays COD charge or prepays)!!!!! GAMES FOR SALE-(IN BOX w/DOCS) NAME DISKS PRICE The Killing Game Show 2 $15 Overlord 3 15 Space Quest II 3 15 ST Star Raiders 1 8 Chaos Strikes Back 1 15 The Sentry 1 8 Curse of the Azure Bonds 2 20 Hacker 1 5 Rocket Ranger 3 15 ManHunter II-San Francisco (NO docs) 3 10 Treasure Island 2 10 Flight of the Intruder (NO docs) 2 20 UMS-The Universal Military Simulator 1 10 Future Wars (NO docs) 2 10 Starglider 1 10 Oids 1 5 Omega 1 15 Falcon:w/Mission Disk 2+1 30 Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer-2.0 2 15 Hard Drivin' II-Drive Harder 1 20 F-29 Retaliator 2 15 Projectyle (NO docs) 1 5 Xybots 2 5 The Hound of Shadow 3 15 Space Quest III 3 20 The Colonel's Bequest 4 20 Captive 2 15 Leader Board Dual Pack:Pro Golf Simulator 2 5 Turbo Out Run 2 10 Tolkien's War in Middle Earth 3 15 Chariots of Wrath 2 10 Zany Golf 2 10 Magic Fly 2 10 Legend 2 15 Will Harvey's Music Construction Set 1 5 Marble Madness 2 5 A Mind Forever Voyaging 1 5 Enchanter 1 5 Wishbringer 1 5 Bureaucracy 1 5 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 1 5 GAMES FOR SALE-ORIGINAL DISK/DOCS; NO BOX TITLE DISKS PRICE Balance of Power-the 1990 edition 1 $15 Ballistix 1 5 MIG-29 1 10 Oids 1 5 Populous 1 10 Starglider 2 8 Starglider 2 2 10 Sub Battle 1 10 Techno Cop 2 10 Temple of Apshai Trilogy 1 5 Time Bandit 1 5 Ultimate Golf 1 10 Championship Wrestling 1 10 Captain Blood 2 8 Chaos Strikes Back 2 15 Death Sword 1 10 Dungeon Master 1 8 Final Assault 1 5 Frozen Legacy 1 5 Test Drive 2 8 Uninvited 2 8 Deja Vu 2 8 Shadowgate 1 20 Slaygon 2 10 GAMES--ORIGINAL DISKS;NO DOCS/BOX TITLE DISKS PRICE Barbarian 2 $ 5 Dungeon Master (v 1.2) 1 5 Falcon 2 10 Hex 1 5 Mort 1 1 5 Mort 2 1 5 Pirates of the Barbary Coast 1 5 Flip Side 1 5 Defender of the Crown 2 5 SPECIAL PACKAGE DEAL: BUY ALL THE ABOVE FOR ONLY: $20!!! BOOKS FOR SALE Atari ST Programmer's Guide............................$4.00 GFA Basic Programmers Reference Guide: vol. I.......... 4.00 GFA Basic Training Reboot Camp......................... 4.00 The Lost Scrolls of Mount Anaias....................... 4.00 (2)Abacus #2:Atari ST Internals........................ 4.00 (2)Abacus #3:GEM Programmer's Reference................ 4.00 The Complete Guide to the Portfolio.................... 7.00 PROGRAMMING-(ALL W/DISKS) (2) GFA BASIC (2.0)........$20 GFA BASIC 3.5 INTERPRETER.. 20 C-BREEZE................... 20 STOS-The Game Creator...... 20 MARK WILLIAMS "C".......... 30 TRUE BASIC................. 20 PERSONAL PASCAL............ 30 As always we will consider trades for ST hardware/software except games and Midi. Thanks Jack You can E-mail me at J.LEMLEY ---------- G.HUFNAGEL, CAT 27, TOP 4, MSG:17/M475, Dec 26, 1992 Canon BJ 10e and additional ink cartridge for sale. $200.00. Call 402 551 0114 and ask for Gunter ---------- C.ONGSTAD [CDO], CAT 27, TOP 3, MSG:114/M475, Dec 30, 1992 *** USED- LIKE NEW SOFTWARE FOR SALE *** All original docs and disks ST SOFTWARE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Productivity <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< $25 TC! Power For users of AT-Speed, PC-Speed, PC-Ditto II Super Charger or ATonce PC emulators. It turns a portion of your hard drive space into extended memory for memory-hog IBM programs. $20 PC Ditto IBM software emulator for your ST. $80 Hyper Link Hyper text database. Organize data, graphics and future enhancements include sound. It's a relational database. Latest version. $20 G.I.M.E. Graphics Interface Modem Environment. Terminal program with the ability to handle graphics. $20 Chartpak Create outstanding presentation graphics on the Atari ST. $20 Hippo Word & Spell Word processor and spell checker. $20 ST Ledger Keep an accounting of your home budget. Leave E-Mail if interested in purchasing one or more of these items. ---------- ROB-G [Rob], CAT 27, TOP 3, MSG:116/M475, Dec 31, 1992 ####################################################################### ST Software (Friend #1) ####################################################################### Ultima V 25 Timeworks DTP v1.11 20 TV Sports Football 20 STOS v1.03 20 Revolver 15 King's Quest I 15 Populous 15 Shadow of the Beast 15 Starbase Skymapper & Browser 10 RBI Baseball 10 Leaderboard 10 Wayne Gretzky Hockey 10 Silent Service 10 Tanglewood 10 Baal 10 Verminator 10 Blood Money 10 NeoDesk 2.0 10 ~ Total for all above is $275. Take it all off his hands for $175 ~ ####################################################################### ST Software (This STuff is Mine) ####################################################################### Degas Elite (Integral Solutions) 10 Omega (Origin Systems) 10 Flight Simulator II (subLOGIC) 10 I*S Talk (Integral Solutions) 10 Jet (subLOGIC) 10 GFA Vector (Michtron) 7 Interlink ST (Intersect) 7 Barbarian (Psygnosis) 7 Sundog: The Frozen Legacy 5 Breach (Omnitrend Software) 5 Gamestar Baseball 5 ~ Total is $86. Take it ALL for $60! ~ ####################################################################### Prices do not include shipping. Well, I guess that about covers it. If you're interested in any of these items, please send GEmail to ROB-G. Thanks! Robert Glover ---------- R.COBBLE1 [ROD], CAT 27, TOP 3, MSG:117/M475, Dec 31, 1992 LYNX USERS CHECK OUT THE LYNX FOR SALE TOPIC FOR TRADES!!! AS OF 12/31/92 ***************************** PRICES DRASTICALLY REDUCED!! ***************************** PREMIUM PRODUCTS ---------------- CALAMUS SL W/5 extra MODULES--------- 399.00 (over $795.00) (This package includes all brand BRAND NEW! new disk, docs, packaging, regis- NEVER USED. tration, and PKS WRITE module, VECTOR GRAPHIC module, RASTOR GENERATOR module, COLOR SEPARATION module, & SPEEDLINE module) Clip Art Vol. 1 (Dragonware) (over 100 IMG's ) -------------------- 11.00 DynaCadd v.1.85 ----------------------- 359.00 DT Paint (.img .pi3 .mac accessory)---- 17.00 GFA Basic 3.5E (w/compiler) NEW ------- 85.00 Easy Draw (supercharger,easytools)----- 59.00 Hisoft Basic Professional (MichTron)--- 39.00 Harlekin 2 (Brand New) ---------------- 59.00 includes registration & Disk wallet LDW Power Spreadsheet ---------------- 55.00 (Lotus 123 clone w/commands and WK1 files) Do not have orig. disk. Orig. Manual is incl. Migraph Draw Art Personal (object oriented clip art) ----------- 12.00 Migraph Draw Art Technical (object oriented clip art) ----------- 12.00 MultiDesk ----------------------------- 8.00 Outline Art (Vector Graphics & EPS)---- 110.00 (BRAND NEW) Use w/ Calamus or Pagestream, create grayscales, and text along path etc.. Superbase Professional 3 ------------ 145.00 (orig. 299.00) (includes database manager,forms editor, programming language etc...) Now supported by Oxxi. All original, Brand New, still in heat shrink. SuperBase Personal -------------------- 27.00 UltraScript --------------------------- 32.00 Postscript Interpreter for SLM UltraScript PS 35 Font set ------------ 69.00 (orig. 295.00) Incl. Font sets 1-7 from Imagen WordUp by Neocept --------------------- 24.00 Word Quest 3 (Artisan)----------------- 11.00 *************************** EXTREMELY GREAT DISCOUNTS *************************** ALL FOLLOWING ITEMS!! ORDERS OVER 25.00 PICK OUT ANYTHING UNDER 6.00 FREE OVER 50.00 PICK OUT ANYTHING UNDER 15.00 FREE OVER 100.OO PICK OUT ANYTHING UNDER 35.00 FREE OVER 200.00 PICK OUT ANYTHING UNDER 70.00 FREE A-Chart ------------------------------- $ 9.00 AEGIS Animator (the original, and best) 24.00 A-Ram --------------------------------- 3.00 Ansi Term ----------------------------- 5.00 Astodat III (European database IBM)---- 39.00 Athena II v. 1.5 (no docs)------------- 9.00 Base Two (Antic) ---------------------- 15.00 Business Card Maker ------------------- 7.00 Chessmaster 2000 ---------------------- 15.00 DB Master One (NO DOCS) --------------- 9.00 DOS Shell by MichTron (no docs)-------- 3.00 Expert Opinion (AI, Knowledge Base)---- 16.00 Expose' (no docs from Maxwell CPU)----- 6.00 Fast Basic (WITH CARTRIDGE)------------ 18.00 Firestorm ----------------------------- 4.00 Firezone ------------------------------ 8.00 Flash telecommunications -------------- 9.00 Fleet Street Publisher v.1 ------------ 22.00 Flexcessory --------------------------- 11.00 (incl. 20 other programs, from E. Arthur Brown Co.) Flight Simulator II (sublogic) -------- 15.00 Flip Side ----------------------------- 4.00 Good Back up Utility ------------------ 11.00 G+Plus -------------------------------- 9.00 Hard Disk Accelerator (Beckemeyer) ---- 6.00 Hippo Ram disk ------------------------ 3.00 Hippo Spell --------------------------- 3.00 Hard Disk Sentry (Beckemeyer)---------- 15.00 the Informer by Regent ---------------- 9.00 Interaction --------------------------- 4.00 Intellicom -(NO DOCS)------------------ 5.00 Karate Kid Part II -------------------- 4.00 Logistix (spreadsheet,chart,database)-- 35.00 Love Quest ---------------------------- 4.00 Microsoft Write ----------------------- 21.00 OAG Electronic Airline Guide----------- 5.00 Phantasm ------------------------------ 5.00 Philon Fast Basic M compiler ---------- 15.00 Pizzazz Plus v.2.08 ------------------- 15.00 (video graphic presentations) Quantum Paint (4096 colors!)----------- 28.00 Regent Base --------------------------- 14.00 Regent Base -(GUIDE BK. W/DISK)-------- 9.00 Slicctop ------------------------------ 16.00 Sudden View (Student version)---------- 7.00 Sundog the Frozen Legacy -------------- 15.00 Switch Back (W/Hardware)--------------- 11.00 Tune-up ------------------------------- 11.00 V-Dos Pro queue ----------------------- 15.00 The Video Wizard ---------------------- 10.00 VIP Professional Lite ----------------- 19.00 World Games by Epix ------------------- 9.00 BOOKS ----- Introduction to Wordstar by sybex ----- 5.00 The CP/M handbook by sybex ------------ 5.00 All software is original w/docs unless otherwise indicated. Prices does not include shipping and C.O.D. charges. If interested in above items E-Mail Genie to R.COBBLE1 or call aft. 4 Eastern Standard Time @ (304)965-0374. I will also consider OFFERS and/or entire system bids. SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTERS! MAKE AN OFFER ON ALL!! ---------- C-LAB NOTATOR VERSION 3.1 FOR ATARI ST WITH KEY AND MANUAL ASKING PRICE $350.00 JACOB NAGIAR 201-823 8805 #XKY52447 [EOA] [WTD]////////////////////////////// WANTED / ///////////////////////////////// Want to Purchase If you are looking for some used equipment, software, or that special item you just can't find, try the ST RT message base Category 27. Those most likely to have ST items are frequenting the bases. You can have your items listed here by posting a message in the ST RT message base or sending E-mail to F.KOCH. HARDWARE, SOFTWARE and SYSTEMS ****************************** B.HYUN2 [berto], CAT 27, TOP 5, MSG:65/M475, Dec 25, 1992 I am looking for Monitor Master. This is the box that lets you switch between color monitor and monochrome monitor. If you have one, e-mail me. I am also looking for a cheap 2nd floppy drive (720, preferably 1.44). must be compatible with Spectre GCR. external. And finally, Iam looking for a dirt cheap 520ST (is 520 enough for all the games?). It's going to be for games. I will also be interested in a printer. if you have any of these, plase e-mail me. berto ---------- S.EAKINS [SCOOTS], CAT 27, TOP 5, MSG:66/M475, Dec 26, 1992 I'm looking for a set of TOS 2.06 for a STe (2 chip set). If you want to sell them at a reasonable price, please leave me Email. Hope you all had a Merry Christmas, and are looking forward to a happy New Year! Scott ---------- W.STEINERT [Rat Fink], CAT 27, TOP 5, MSG:70/M475, Dec 28, 1992 I'm looking for an Ad-Speed STe, and/or and AT Speed for STe. I've heard the AT-Speed is a tight fit in a 1040 case - is that true? Thanks, Rat Fink - Monday December 28, 1992 00:54 a.m. - Los Angeles, Ca. E-Mail Address = W.Steinert ---------- J.BRIGHAM, CAT 27, TOP 9, MSG:31/M475, Dec 26, 1992 I'm looking for a copy of Printlink. For those selling Spectres with this software sitting on your shelf, please give me a ring. 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