			       REVELATiON  2
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                     ---=====( In This Issues )=====---
                                                       
                1>- Introduction        4>- Interviews 
                                                       
                2>- Scene News          5>- Group Report
                                                       
                3>- Articles            6>- Closing Statement
                                                       
               ---=====( Introduction to Revelation )=====---

	Okay welcome to the new Revelation 2. Yes, name is 100% biased.
	Last week had a lot of biased bits and people pointed them out
	to me in a hurry. A lot seem to be those that feel threatened
	by this magazine. As I stated before and I will say again. This
	is meant to be read along with Lester's report and CWS' stats.
	Not alone. Sorry about being late again this week. Last week
	RVL2 was not released because I was considering shutting it
	down and devoting my time to other things. A lot of people were
	messaging me asking about it. So it's back by popular demand!

                       ---=====( Scene News )=====---

	Game Groups-

		<*> New games group, they've been around for a few weeks
		but seem to really have got it going this week. Group is
		called 'Reveal' I see some members from other groups in it.
		With all these new groups starting and members switch,
		quiting or retiring its hard to keep track of who is where.

		<*> DiViNE seemed to have picked up a new member very day
		last week. My only guess is they are trying to rebuild
		after the switch to Reflux by a few members.

		<*> Celebre came back last week with a comeback release.
		Some sort of Flight Sim 98 addon by Alpha Software. It
		was supplied by TimmyG and it seems he just used the CLB
		release outlet to get into RAZOR. Turns out he has been
		trying for 3 years. Well I have heard reports about the
		release he supplied us had a CIH virus. So I'd be careful
		if I was you RAZOR.

	Courier Groups -

		<*> No news this week...

	Couriers -

		<*> Nobody beat Kaboom on his last week of trading two weeks
		ago. So no one will get the 2Gb of credits that was up for
		grabs on XNS. I wish him the best of luck in his future
		nontrading days. Unlinke a lot of people, myself included,
		he was always nice, unbiased and neutral in situations. Much
		better than all those people that are making comments about
		my group and this magazine. He is what I will be trying to
		mold myself after. Truly great person...

		<*> Slammar as gone IND. Reason stated was he was resetting
		his priorities to to school. He will be back though.

	Sites -

		<*> XNS is down, reasons unknown at this time. Although
		there was something in the topic about FBI monitoring
		because of attempted hacking. I am not 100% if this
		applied to Xenosis.

		<*> Prime Mover, a US site already affiled with Blizzard,
		SiEGE and Reflux, has just announce a new courier affil.
		It is now Revelation USHQ. And last I checked they are
		ahead of all other groups by 200Mb.

		<*> Hades is finally back up. With these affils: DMS WHQ -
		RiSE WHQ - PFT WHQ - CLASS CHQ - TRG WHQ - MFD WHQ. As you
		can see they have quiet a line up. I'd suggest you get
		yourself added ASAP and rack up credits now.

                <*> Meltdown, a new US site that seems to be 90% NGT
		controlled is up and in action. T3 and 15GB of space.
		Most likely you'll want to message an NGT member to
		get added to the site.

                <*> People are getting inpatient about WOC. Its only been
		two weeks and T3s take 3-4 to install. So hold your horses.

		<*> MSV is back up and in full action. Same affils and
		still as hard to get ahold of a site OP as ever. New key
		for the channel, so login and see what it is. If you can't
		get on, its because you were deleted in the user purge they
		did while it was down.

		*** NOTE: Unlike Sky, I prefer not get my news from TCA ***

                      ---=====( Site Weektop )=====---

	*** NOTE: NMS was down this week and therefore not included ***
	*** NOTE2: MSV and ROC switched places, sending ROC upto 2X ***

		SiTE RANKiNGS:

			  3X>  E - ET - FS - HOL - STH - PL
			  2X> IC - FF - FOS - ROC - TT - TWH
			  1X> DL - DWH - LA - NMS - PM - MSV

	,------------------------------------------------------------.
	| RANK - COURiER NAME - GROUP - POiNTS - SiTES WEEKTOPPED    |
        |------+--------------+-------+--------+---------------------|
        | #001 - Snap         - EQL   -  274  - All of them, I think |
        | #002 - Roller       - MNM   -  199  - E/ET/FS/HOL/STH/TWH..|
        | #003 - Sneeze       - DEV   -  111  - E/ET/FF/FS/HOL/IC/STH|
        | #004 - Stix         - DMS   -  100  - DL/ET/FS/HOL/IC/STH  |
        | #005 - Officedog    - RiSC  -  93   - E/FS/HOL/IC/PL/STH/..|
        | #006 - Baseclw      - NGT   -  92   - FF/HOL/IC/PL/ROC/STH |
        | #007 - Kruzin       - MNM   -  84   - FOS/HOL/PL/ROC/TT    |
        | #008 - SacX         - MNM   -  69   - DWH/FOS/FS/PL/ROC/TWH|
        | #009 - Aldog        - fATE  -  66   - MSV/STH/TT/TWH       |
        : #010 - Bizzy        - RiSC  -  60   - DL/E/HOL/ROC         |
        . #011 - mgd          - DMS   -  56   - FS/IC/STH            |
          #012 - Moonsabre    - AMB   -  55   - FS/FOS/PL/TT/TWH     |
        . #013 - godbless     - NGT   -  51   - DWH/E/FF/FOS/IC/MSV/.|
        : #014 - roc          - VGN   -  46   - DWH/E/FF/HOL/STH     |
        | #015 - Diamond      - RVL   -  41   - DL/DWH/IC/PM/TWH     |
        | #016 - Darkman      - AMB   -  40   - DL/ET/FS             |
        | #017 - Slammar      - M8    -  28   - ET/HOL/IC            |
        | #018 - Unkept       - INT   -  28   - HOL/MSV/ROC/TWH      |
        | #019 - Lester       - DMS   -  27   - E/FS/LA/MSV          |
        | #020 - Shitman      - PHX   -  26   - DL/DWH/PM            |
        | #021 - dthangel     - fATE  -  21   - PL/STH               :
        | #022 - silentjoe    - DMS   -  20   - IC                   .
        | #023 - En4          - MNM   -  18   - FOS                   
        | #024 - Shock        - IND   -  18   - ROC                  .
        | #025 - Serialkil    - ESP   -  17   - MSV/PM               :
        | #026 - Dizzy        - EQL   -  16   - ROC                  |
        | #028 - Fusionnet    - IND   -  16   - TT                   |
        | #027 - Xavier       - DMS   -  15   - ET                   |
        | #029 - Eyedee       - IND   -  14   - TT                   |
        | #030 - Psyber       - MNM   -  14   - DL/ET/LA             |
        `------------------------------------------------------------'

	,------------------------------------------------------------.
	| RANK - GROUP NAME - TOP TRADER - POiNTS - SiTES SUPPORTED  |
	|------+------------+------------+--------+------------------|
	| #001 - MiLLENNiUM -  Roller    -  384   - E/ET/FS/HOL/STH..|
        : #002 - EQUALiTY   -  [SNap]    -  277   - E/ET/FS/HOL/STH..|
        . #003 - DiMENSiON  -  STiX      -  218   - E/ET/FS/HOL/STH..|
          #004 - RiSC       -  Officedog -  156   - E/FS/HOL/ROC/STH.|
        . #005 - NGT        -  Baseclw   -  151   - E/FOS/HOL/PL/STH.|
        : #006 - DEVOTiON   -  Sneeze    -  115   - HOL/PL/FOS/TWH.. |
        | #007 - Ambition   -  Moonsabre -  95    - FS/FOS/PL/TT/TWH |
        | #008 - fATE       -  Aldog     -  87    - E/MSV/TWH/DL/PM  |
        | #009 - REVELATiON -  Diamond   -  66    - DL/DWH/IC/TWH/ROC|
        | #010 - VENGEANCE  -  roc       -  64    - E/FF/HOL/STH     :
	| #011 - iNDPENDANT -  Shock     -  48    - TT/ROC           .
	| #012 - iTENTSiTY  -  Unkept    -  28    - HOL/MSV/ROC/TWH   
	| #013 - MOTiV8     -  Slammar   -  28    - ET/HOL/IC        .
	| #014 - PHOENiX    -  Shitman   -  26    - DL/DWH/PM        :
	| #015 - ESPRiT     -  Serialkil -  25    - MSV/PM           |
        `------------------------------------------------------------'

                        ---=====( Articles )=====---

		     MY THOUGHTS ON THE SCENE - DIAM0ND

	Hate, cheating, lying, and nobody having fun is the banner
	ad of today's scene. The narcings seem to have stopped, for
	now anyway. So we are heading in the right direction on one
	point. The rest is all going downhill. Last week as I pointed
	out about DV, it being T1 and not OC3, this is not the only
	site doing this. There seems to be a manual for jump starting
	a site today. Goes like this:

		1) Setup 486 with 6Gb harddrive on T1 at work
		2) Install rFTPd and lame ASCiis
		3) Mass message people on EFNet to be added
		4) Tell group leaders its OC3+ to get affils
		5) Announce you just upgraded to 100Gb
		6) Boom! Instant top site

	What a crock of shit. Follow that and a few things could happen.
	First and foremost you may get narced. Second I'll find out
	about it and bury you. Third you just went and screwed up what
	could have been a decent medium level site by lying.

	Another bit is the hate most people have for most other couriers,
	crackers, groups, etc. I am a major part of this. I admit that
	right off the line. I'm way to verbal. Keeping to myself more
	often will be what I am doing to help. I have no control over
	others tho. People calling entire groups lame because of one
	member they dislike. There are new groups trying to work their
	way to the top and others that are telling them they are lame
	because they are not #1 on FS/STH/HOL/TWH/etc. Last I checked
	DMS, MNM, EQL and others never shot striaght outta the gate
	owning all the groups on sites. So don't expect that from the
	smaller crews. Basically I'm tired of myself and others talking
	too much about other groups. You have a problem with another posse
	keep your mouth shut. I don't care what reason. You wanna argue,
	get even, or whatever. You should get your couriers on their HQs
	and weektop above them. That should be the only	way any group will
	ever clash. No more logs for TCA. And before you go and message me
	saying I do this a lot. Don't. I know I do, won't be doing it
	anymore tho and neither should any of you.

	Third thing is cheating. I've seen some decent traders get accused
	of cheating with no proof. Yes this is a major problem, but before
	you say word one. You should have logs, witnesses (not from your
	own group), and a trend of cheating. I've seen a lot of logs where
	someone gets accused of cheating the the other person has witnesses
	from there own group, logs that they conveiently lost and and only
	one time they can state this happening. I've been accused of using
	pFTP or equal before. Kinda funny considering I use ReachOut FXP on
	28.8. Yes its lame, but it shuts down most people's arguement right
	away when they say I cheat. So remember the three steps for getting
	a cheater, and don't come out until you have all of these. Otherwise
	its just another log for TCA and nothing will get done.

	Well that is enough of my ranting and raving. If you'd like to right
	a response to this article please do so. I may include it in the next
	issue. Remember what I said about myself and bit number two. So if you
	message me about it your not paying enough attention.

                       ---=====( Interviews )=====---

		INTERViEWER: NONE
                INTERViEWEE: THE SPEED RACER
                GROUP AFFIL: RAZOR 1911
		ABOUT WHAT?: HiS THOUGHTS ON TRC'S RETiREMENT

	*** NOTE: This interview was done about a year ago and never seems
	to have been released. I found it on my HD and thought Revelation 2
	readers would be interested. So here it is ***

	In January of 1995, The Renegade Chemist decided that he wanted
	to retire from the scene and retire RAZOR 1911. The general
	consensus of the group was that they wanted to see the legacy
	continue. So EOS, The Gecko, and myself decided we would continue
	the group and then TRC came to the conclusion of kicking us out
	and then shutting down the group. An internal war would ensue and
	Marauder on the other with Randall Flagg, at the time, in the middle.
	The whole scene watched intensely to see who would emerge victorious
	meanwhile, with the fighting going on RAZOR 1911 wasn't producing
	as many titles as usual.with EOS, The Gecko, and myself on one side
	with TRC. 

	The other groups were quick to capitalize on this weakness. In
	time TRC would concede defeat and join Tyranny but his presence
	would not dissapear nor be forgotten while Marauder would still be
	in RAZOR. A month later TRC, Marauder, Randall Flagg and Hoson
	would ban together to form Eclipse showing an impressive performance
	while RAZOR 1911 was in reconstruction. During reconstruction, many
	members ,unsure of the future, under new leadership, would jump ship.
	Those who stuck by during hard times would see and be a part of the
	glorious future including top releases, #1 for a few months on the
	charts, and domination of Europe. As the diskette releases became
	fewer Genesis would close shop and concentrate on trendsetting
	TDU-JAM their CD division. Hybrid, the new CD division of Eclipse
	was concentrating more on CD's with Eclipse giving a poor showing
	on the floppy releases leaving RAZOR and Tyranny to battle it out
	with RAZOR on top the majority of the time. With the scene almost
	ignoring diskette releases and only watching the CD-Rom groups
	battle it out, the general consensus was that RAZOR 1911 was dead.
	In an interview at the end of September I was asked "Why is RAZOR
	dead?". Laughing I told the reporter that if RAZOR had rocked the
	diskette scene in the past, that the CD could be done as well.
	Also I told him that in October, RAZOR would show the world just
	how dead we were. I also told him that, RAZOR, entering the race
	late would have a lot to learn, but the goals set for RAZOR in the
	month of October were simple, release quality and be consistent.

	As this article is being written on October 22,1995, TDU-Jam is #1,
	Razor 1911 CD #2, and Hybrid #3, #2 is not bad for a "Dead Group"
	with 9 days left in the month, anything can happen, so we shall see.
	As far as looking into the future no one can really tell but with
	such a great bunch of guys, loyal and hard working we will always
	unite to bring YOU the best in quality PC originals. It is January
	of 1997 now, and as change is evident, this family has seen many.
	One thing is certain; RAZOR has stood the test of time. As 1996
	saw the demise of several groups including "please release a fix
	for me NAPALM and the fall of the "Infamous game stealing Prestige.
	Razor had a great year in 1996 focusing on quality by releasing the
	best games, including Quake, NHL 97', NFL 97', and #1 Game of the
	YEAR: C&C : Red Alert. Mind you the competition was fierce, including
	formidable Prestige who WAS a contender, is no longer in existance
	proving ONCE AGAIN that group killer TRC had struck AGAIN, as Prestige
	VANISHES without a trace. 1996 saw many changes, a new RAZOR leader in
	The Punisher as he would immediately prove himself by slamming the
	biggest and most prestigious game of 1996 Command and Conquer: Red
	Alert and also by pulling some of the greatest guys in the scene into
	the family including Zeus, Holybeast, Snoop Maverick and a host of
	others. The end of 1996 was a sad time for me as I retired gracefully
	in November after 2 years of love and service to my family by coming
	full circle and releasing the sequel to my first biggest release: Lords
	of the Realm 2! One thing seems evident, as 1997 is upon us a few new
	faces are here and some old faces are gone, but as we aspire to reach
	year #13th for this DYNASTY, Razor has made its mark proving time and
	time again as other groups come and go, in the end only one will be
	left standing... RAZOR - THE Brotherhood ! As we Sharpen The Blade to
	kick off 1997 in GRAND splendor.


		INTERViEWER: DIAM0ND
                INTERViEWEE: KRUZIN
                GROUP AFFIL: MNMPFT/RiSE/REFLUX
		ABOUT WHAT?: HIS THOUGHTS OF RVL'S LAMENESS
		(NOTE2: This is not actually an interview, just a log)

		*** Correction: Issue #1, the second interview was with Kruzin
		and not The Turtle as some people thought. And it was about him
		calling Revelation and all members lame. I've talked with him
		once again and we are not cool with each other. ***

                      ---=====( Group Report )=====---

		GROUP NAME: AMBiTiON
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #7

	Thanks to Moonsbare Ambition has made a strong comeback. But he
	is about the only active AMB member I see. I've seen half curry
	in the past but that is about it. I really doubt they get any
	where with only three guys couriering. But if they can get a few
	more people in action, they will diffently move on up.

		GROUP NAME: DEVOTiON
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #6

	I truely thought I'd *never* see the day. Garoto made one small appreance
	on FF and that was it. I was totally stunned. Lucky sneeze stepped in with
	some PFT pres and saved their asses. Again like Ambition, lots of members
	yet only a few active. If they can fix the Garoto problem and get a few
	more people trading and not just pre'ing they'll do alright. With norseman
	I know they have the shellboxes to do it.

		GROUP NAME: DiMENSiON
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #3

	Are we seeing this great group start to fade as Amnesia did? They are still
	in the grouptop and at the number three spot by a long way. But usually they
	control the #1 domain. Hopefully this is just a slump for them and like I
	said last week, still a few disgruntled couriers looking to jump ship.

		GROUP NAME: EQUALiTY
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #2

	The human pFTP has done it again. SNap has uploaded more megs than all of
	Dimension or any other group but Millennium. Can you say 'insomniac?' I
	never see this guy sleep, no matter what time I message him he replies.
	Same case as some of the above tho, only two guys doing anything MC_GUSTO
	and of course Snap. They picked up Benny Boy from RVL, if they can get him
	a shell I know he can throw down some megs for them.

		GROUP NAME: fATE
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #8

	This seems to be the week to have your group fade away or make a strong come-
	back. fATE has been a joke in recent days and has just got its new Garoto and
	he is: Aldog. Him and dthangel did quiet a good job this past week on the sites
	I really don't think we'll see this next week, but you never know.

		GROUP NAME: MiLLeNiUM
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #1

	This is by far the best comeback I have ever seen. Not only are they #1 after
	being way down the line for a few weeks past. These guys are sitting in the
	kings chair by 91 points. Completely awesome. They have a supercourier as do
	Equality and Devotion. Yet instead of the rest of the members being lazy I am
	seeing a lot of trading, espcially by Kruzin. Good job on bouncing back to #1
	Millennium, now make sure you keep this up.

		GROUP NAME: NGT
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #5

	Still haven't listen to what I said last week. Still 2 or 3 lone couriers on
	the sites pumping megs for them. But they got two extremely good people doing
	it. Baseclw and godbless had an awesome performance bring NGT to the number 5
	spot at which it resides. Dee has been working there new INET HQ, Meltdown,
	maybe he should take those credits he racked up and support some other sites.
	That move will surely keep NGT on a steady climb up.

		GROUP NAME: REVELATiON
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #9

	We had some serious problems with members about midweek. So that basically
	shut us down. Several are back tho, and also got a few more new guys. Lucky
	for us I put in a decent performance keeping us active on grouptop. Hopefully
	with more guys getting active and the new USHQ we can do better this week.

		GROUP NAME: RiSC
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #4

	The only thing that surprised me more than Garoto's lack of couriering. RiSC is
	back! And they have officedog to thank for it. He's done a little bit more megs
	than he used to in Demon. I suspect it to be RiSC's shells. Bizzy is back to his
	old pre'ing self and even Morbid could be found on LA. This seems to be 100%
	attributed to Officedog. I see yet another supercourier emerging for a group.

		GROUP NAME: RTS
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #X

	No where to be found on the ranked sites. And obviously did not make grouptop.
	I do give them credit as I did last week to the fact that they are mainly US
	and our ranked sites are almost all EU. But still I haven't seen as much RTS
	trading in recent days and see this group fading away.

		GROUP NAME: VENGEANCE
		GROUP TYPE: COURiER
		GROUP RANK: #10

	Again roc comes through for them. tc slowed down a little this week on trading
	Or I am sure they would have done better. Also Dark Druid is back to trading!
	If VGN has him doing half what he used to they will be a force to beat. Even
	with tc's slowed trading rate, they did better than last week.

                    ---=====( Closing Statement )=====---

	Well I'm sure I will be bombarded soon after this goes out
	with people mad at me. I have learned a new respect for Tech
	and Lester. As I am sure they have to go thru this as well.
	Anyways, if you must bitch msg me on EFNet - DIAM0ND

 [ISSUE #2][RELEASE: 08/11/1998][CREATOR/SENIOR EDITOR: DIAM0ND][EDITOR: BIOHZARD]
