
THE REPLY TO ALF'S TEXT FILE:


           Well it certainly has been a wild month eh ?
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 

     We were saddened to see that some loser took the time out to
     write a little 'shit attack' against ALF.   

---====> hey, I ain't a looser...more than I can say for most of ALF's
         members
---====> shit attack?  then why have I seen so many posts agreeing with the
         text file? like the following one below:

Date: 08-13-94 (03:57)              Number: 11348 of 11453 (Refer# NONE)
  To: JIM JONES
From: DAVIOLATOR
Subj: ALF-LAME TXT
Read: 08-13-94 (17:34)              Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: Main Board (0)             Read Type: GENERAL (A) (+) HAS REPLIES

You think about dude, that ALF-LAME TXT files is not all wrong...ALF has
been releasing a bunch of dupes lately and that is something that can't
be denied..A fact is a fact..Groups make mistakes, that is something
that a group has to fix up...Let's just hope Mr. Philly is not the way
it speaks to be..

                                -DAVIOLATOR
                   JUST GIVING MY OPINION IN THE ISSUE..

---====> seems like others agree with me, like the above person, who might I
         add is now leading NWO and has been in both, TRSi and PHOENIX, two 
         groups that I am sure if you asked their leaders would laugh if an 
         ALF member wanted to join them 

     But we are happy to know that only the successful breed enemies
     as well as friends.   Thanks for letting us know that we are a
     success by showing what a lame enemy you are !  We are in good
     company knowing that TRSI, LEGEND, SCUM, PHOENIX, PWA, NEXUS,
     
---====> you in company with those groups? haha...don't make me laugh
---====> I'm also glad you realize that those are some of the best groups in
         the scene, as I am a member of one of them, thanks for the compliment

     and many other older groups have also been on the receiving end
     of childish 'group bashing'    We thank the author of that 
     ALF bashing for putting us into that same elite league...

---====> you haven't been put into any elite league, and unlike ALF, the 
         groups listed above, receive very little 'group bashing', 
         except amongst each other, which is just friendly competition

     We will not bother wasting this message to inform you how mistaken
     that lamer was about the 3DStudio release ALF issued last week.  It
     
---====> then how come even some of your own group members apologized for the
         release? here are some quotes:

Date: 08-13-94 (03:31)              Number: 11345 of 11453 (Refer# NONE)
  To: ALL
From: JIM JONES
Subj: ALF!LAME.ZIP
Read: (N/A)                         Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: Main Board (0)             Read Type: GENERAL (A) (+) HAS REPLIES

Hello..This makes me sick..
It seems as though we were setup..the person who released the files from
--==>3ds Swore that they were not dupes and that he got releases 6 months
--==>before anyone else..well..the 6 months was right..just the wrong
--==>direction..as soon as these files came out, so did the txt file about
--==>our lameness..I think this is a setup..it really smells of this..we,
--==>like all groups are bound to mess up somewhere, but we try to prevent
--==>this, sometimes, relying on group members gets you fucked..this is a
--==>case..we appoligize for the releases.  Any replys will gladly be replied
to.  But think of this..if Alf is so Lame and EVERY BIG Elite Dude Knew
This, then why is Traders Outpost a Distro for them?  Why is Kiss of
Death a distro for them?  Why would I stay with them, even thought I
have had offers to join other 'Bigger' groups..Why?  Because Alf is a
good group, and we are dedicated to releasing the best files we can, as
fast as we can...and last of all..if we are SOOOO lame, why is The
Captain A Senior Member and the Ghostship the CHQ?  I Don't Think so
Jerky..
        the ravins of a lunatik
        Jimmie Jones
        [Alf Boy..]

---====> and EVEN a SENIOR member of ALF!

Date: 08-13-94 (11:30)              Number: 11372 of 11453 (Refer# 11345)
  To: JIM JONES
From: CRACK HEAD
Subj: ALF!LAME.ZIP
Read: 08-13-94 (17:19)              Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: Main Board (0)             Read Type: GENERAL (A) (+)

-> Hello..This makes me sick..
-> It seems as though we were setup..the person who released the files
-> from




yeah!!!...ALF fucking rulez the scene bitch...That TXT file was
--==>nothing...Just watch...It will never happen again...Everyone dupes..It
--==>was a misatke and will never happen again..

---====> Granted this fool thinks "ALF fucking rulez", but he at least did 
         acknowledge that the 3ds releases were "a mistake" and claims that 
         something like this "will never happen again" which we all know will
         be the same story with ALF's next release.
---====> Sure seems like you guys can't get your story straight.  Some of your
         members realize that the 3ds stuff was old, but yet in this text file
         you lamers called PROSPER, you previously stated the following: 
     
     "We will not bother wasting this message to inform you how mistaken
     that lamer was about the 3DStudio release ALF issued last week."  

---====> if I was mistaken, then why did two of your group members agree that
         the releases were old, including a senior?
---====> also, then why when I called Schreiber, did they said that those 
         products have been available for quite a while?

     is suffice to say that he obviously didn't have access on Mirage
     
---====> on the contrary, unlike all of ALF's members I do have access on     
         Mirage, I would like to invite any ALF members to just try and get
         an account, also how would you explain the captures of the Mirage
         filebase?  In addition if any of the lamers from ALF did have access,
         they would be able to see that one of the High Voltage leaders also
         informed the sysop of Mirage that those ALF releases were DUPES!

     and that the loser is not familiar at all with 3DStudio, how many

---====> you guys just can't seem to get one right, can you? I not only have
         been using 3d Studio for the past 1.5 years, but I also have been
         hired to do work on it...I also receive Schreiber's newsletter which
         informs me when new products are coming out, so I know when NEW stuff
         from them is going to be released.

     programs there are that exist for it, and a thing called UPDATES.  


     ALF released a number of major titles in the last thirty days
     
---====> this is interesting, please name one of those 'major titles'     

     and all were 100% clean cracks.  We even took the time to fix
     up some of the botched releases from some of the other groups
     who were in such a rush to release their new warez they forgot
     to thoroughly test their releases - so much for quality eh ?

---====> you mean you took the time to search the other BBS's and find warez
         that were released independently and repackage them as your own.

     Unfortunately we did fuck up on the creation of our new review
     division of Alf.   In an effort to make Alf reviews easy and
     friendly to read we included an ANSIVIEW.EXE to help our fans
     read our reviews.  The damn thing had a virus in it.  For this
     we absolutely and humbly apologize.  As you can imagine the
     news of that virus came as a shock to our Games Reviewer who
     suddenly learned that his own system was infected - oh well
     I guess when we live by the sword we fall by the sword ahhaa

     So yes...  ALF is not perfect.  So what.   None of the major
     
---====> FINALLY, you guys got one right!  ALF is FARRRRR from perfect.     

     groups are perfect.   But at least we spend our time working
     to improve the pirate scene by spreading warez and not by
     wasting time trying to insult the other groups.  

---====> you only worsen the scene by spreading old warez that you repackage
         yourselves
---====> you can't insult other groups because you have nothing to insult them
         for!  No group is as pathetic as you ARE!

     ALF is also not involved in racing warez onto the scene just
     to say we are the first...  other groups have tried that and
     died once people learned that they were rushing unproven 
     and uncracked warez onto the scene just to get it there 
     first.   First is kewl only if it is done right... 

     ALF would rather pick up the pieces that were unbroken or
     not thoroughly debugged and put the release out as 100% or
     even 110% functional.

---====> do you mean pick up releases that were done independently and then  
         rerelease them as your own?  why is a release not 100% if it does
         not have the ALF.NFO file or your lame DIZ?  if that's the case, then
         you guys are doing a GREAT JOB!  Next time I'll remember when my 
         group releases something, to tell whoever packages it to put 99% 
         release and write this is not 100% until it someone from ALF 
         downloads it and repackages it as their own

     The future of ALF ?  We are still at work slaving away to
     get more and more releases onto the scene.  Everyday ALF
     acquires more distribution sites, couriers and friends 
     who are helping to firmly establish ALF as one of the
     new generation of US pirate groups.   Slow and steady wins
     the race and ALF is here for the long ride....  

---====> Well you guys definately are SLOW!  Even 4 months too slow on some of
         your releases!

     The sites that have been selected by ALF for our primary 
     distribution are all BBS's that have been online for over
     five years and in some cases some have been online over
     ten years. 

     Our selection of couriers is not rigid or built in stone
     as we are looking for maximum spread of warez - not just
     a few big name couriers. 

     Our crackers are good and with each day more coders are
     looking at ALF as the group to join !   The reason is 
     simple - they know that this is not a flash in the pan
     group - it will be around for years to come.  And we 
     don't waste our time shitting on our coders when things
     fuck up - people are human and the protection schemes are
     not as simple or crude as some might think.  If our work
     makes it look simple - we thank you for the compliment.

---====> Well your work IS simple, just download repackage and upload!

     Our review division is new and although they seriously
     fucked up with that ansiview.exe problem, their articles
     
---====> yep, they did SERIOUSLY fuck up!     
     
     still are some of the most informed and informative out
     there.

     Our PPE division is new and showing exceptional creativity
     that is helping to make PCB bulletin boards more customized
     and user friendly.

     So yes... we are not perfect.  We never said we were.  We
     are just a bunch of pirates banding together to try to 
     produce a North American pirate association that we can 
     all take pride and pleasure being a part of.  If anyone
     expects perfection than they will be seriously saddened
     in life because frankly dewds nothing is perfect - we all
     just do what we can - the best that we can...

---====> well you guys do do what you do best - BEING LAME!

     I will close this blatant piece of advertising with a simple
     greet to all the dewds on the scene who have been noticing 
     the growth of Alf and our hard work.   Hopefully when you 
     grow tired of the scene bashers, group bashers or other
     lamers out there that don't appreciate your pirating efforts
     you will give ALF a call and share with us your talents.

---====> yeah! join ALF and then a WHOLE lotta people will appreciate your
         pirating effors, right? hahaha

     But you don't have to rush to join - we will be here when 
     you make your decision to make the switch - can you say the
     same level of confidence exist in your current group ?

---====> actually YES I can!

     Live long and prosper and let's all remember that the pirate
     world only has two enemies :

      The software publishing world who seek to destroy us and
      the lamers who seek to insult the groups they cannot join!

---====> I am not LAME and would not wanna join ALF! because then I would be
         classed with the biggest bunch of lamers in the scene!
                 
