Ok, my board, and myself are no longer affiliated with the International Network of Crackers. I would like to give an explination for this action, though. I was the ViSiON-X FelonyNET Moderator. With this title, came the responsibility of keeping the lamers out of FelonyNET. In order to keep them out, I devised a file which contained a list of all those who were blacklisted. Each board was required to remove net access from anyone who was in that list, which was updated as-needed. A guy named Tsalaroth had in the past ran a cracked copy of V-X, and proven himself to be a total loser, in the eyes of just about everyone in the scene. For these reasons, he was added to the blacklist. This took effect on 04/12/92. During these 2 months, Tsalaroth ran conferences for various groups, thereby gaining phone numbers to a lot of important people. He annoyed the fuck out of these people, and weasled his way 'up there', so to speak. He was utilized by INC to run conferences for a while. This was approved by Cool Hand and The Cracksmith. Now, because of my previous encounters with Tsalaroth, I did NOT trust him to run our confereces, after all, he had bothered FLT and RAZOR about becomming a courier for them, so he was proven disloyal right there. They said, 'No, let him stay, he is helping us w/the conferences'. I voiced my disapproval a few more times, but to no avail. By running these conferences and staying in close contact with Cool Hand, and The Cracksmith, they grew fond of him, and 'favored' him. During all this time, Tsalaroth was not in FelonyNET, as requested, so all was ok. Then just yesterday (06/15/92), I saw a post comming from Mid-Nite Oil ]I[ from Tsalaroth. This prompted me to call Stykx, the sysop of MNO ]I[. I told him that Tsalaroth was blacklisted from FelonyNET, and all V-X sysops were required to remove his NET Access. He asked me why, I explained why, and that not only myself, but AfterMath and Ryec didn't want him in the net either. He said ok, he would have his net access removed, no problem. So all was well, or was it? I called Cool Hand two or so hours later, just to see what was going on, we chatted on miscellaneous subjects for a couple of minutes. Then he asked me if I had called Stykx that day and told him to remove Tsalaroth's net access, I told him yes. He said Tsalaroth's net access would NOT be removed, under any circumstances. I told him that as my job as FelonyNET Moderator, I could NOT be biased, that if all the other boards had to remove his access, so did MidNite Oil ]I[, REGUARDLESS if it was the INC WHQ. He laughed at me, and told me that he would have all INC boards drop ViSiON-X. I told him fine, go for it. He said, since you want me to, I won't. I said fine. I then got a call-waiting, which was my girlfriend long-distance; I told him who it was, and that I would call him later, then I hung up on him. He called back 30 seconds later, asked me why I hung up on him, explained AGAIN who it was, etc (guess he didn't hear, eh?), then told him bye. He told me that he TOO was calling Longdistance, and that I was no longer in INC. I told him, whatever, and that was that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Basically, I got dropped from INC for doing my job on the ViSiON-X Team. If I would have said that MNO ]I[ didn't have to drop Tsalaroth, and had not warned him that MNO ]I[ would be removed from the Net temporarily for refusing to remove him, I would have not been carrying out my job; it would have been a VERY biased thing to do, and that is NOT me. As the moderator, I could have dropped all RAZOR people from the net, BUT DID I EVER DO IT! No, I didn't. Cool Hand's problem was he couldn't except no for an answer. He has had his homo-ass licked SOOO hard for SOO long that he blewup when he was denied what he wanted. So, he proceded to boot me out of INC. Also, I would like to comment on the way Cool Hand kicked me out - He used his INC powers, influence, etc to fuck with me for something personal. That was WRONG. He has hurt INC by what he has done, and has abused his powers. I have a personal problem with Tsalaroth, but I solve that problem in a personal manner. Anyway, all is well. I have joined Fairlight PC Division. I am a Courier Coordinator in the group, and my board is the Central Courier HQ. Fairlight is a GREAT group with lots of potential, and I intend to do as much as I can to help get things back the way they used to be. Thanks for taking the time to read this, it's my account, first hand. later... ... Sought After [FLT/ACiD/WARES]